An Interview with Dr. Brian J Rodgers about Bio-Identical Hormones


Welcome to Talk365 special Talking Wellness series.  Today I’m back at BodyRenu with Dr. Brian Rodgers.

Holly: Dr. Rodgers how are you?

Dr. Rodgers: I doing great, how are you today?

Holly: I’m doing great! I am so excited to be here today because we are talking about something near and dear to my heart, which is Bio-Identical Hormones.

Dr. Rodgers: One of my favorite subjects.

Holly: One of mine too.  Now, I’m one that suffered with anxiety greatly, and I was always tired, and I didn’t know what was wrong.  I tried anti-depressants, I tried taking anxiety medication. None of those things worked, obviously.  Once I found the pellet therapy… the bio-identical pellet therapy, I’m telling you it changed my life, in more ways than we can get into right now. We don’t have enough time to talk about how great this has been for me, personally And for anyone I know as I have reached out and started talking to people about Hormone therapy. So I want to jump in and find out what exactly is Bio-Identical hormones?

Dr. Rodgers: bioidentical hormones are the same hormones that our human bodies make. It’s not what a horse makes. It’s not what a hamster makes. It’s not what scientists make. It what our own bodies make and it’s what our bodies know how to use and synthesize and breakdown.

Holly: So what’s the difference between bioidentical hormones and other hormone therapy?

Dr. Rodgers: Other hormones, for example conjugated horse estrogen, which is the most popular estrogen out there. Is an estrogen pill. That’s what’s in horses. I remember when I was being taught that in residency, someone held up a chart and said look all these 40 different types of estrogen that the horse makes and they’re going to be so great for a woman. But in reality they’re not, they often are toxic to women, the women, the people don’t know how to metabolize them and they just get stuck and they mess up your metabolism. Women have three estrogens that they use. Progesterone is another female hormone. Three’s a progestin that’s used in most birth control pills and that progestin is great for helping shed the endometrial lining of the uterus but it’s not so great and it doesn’t help anxiety, depression. Regular progesterone calms women where the progestin really doesn’t. And so, when you have something similar but not exact it doesn’t perform the same function. And so, we want to use the
same exact hormone in women is they used to using. Anything else will cause problems.

Holly: And in bio identical amount is exactly the same.
Dr. Rodgers: exactly.

Holly: Nice and then what are some of the symptoms out there? I mention some of my personal symptoms.

Dr. Rodgers: sure, well memory loss is one thing that we see. Have you ever walked into a room and forgot why you’re going in there?

Holly: I have!

Dr. Rodgers: once or twice?

Holly: once or twice. Yes.

Dr. Rodgers: Or when you lose your car keys? Or you’re talking to somebody and you just cannot remember their name?

Holly: Now see this happen to me all the time and I have hormone therapy. So that just means I’m in trouble.

Dr. Rodgers: Absolutely.

Holly: Oh Dear. Ok keep going.

Dr. Rodgers: Alright right also can cause depression, anxiety. It can cause low energy especially low energy later in the day after lunch, later in the afternoon, or in the evening. When you get home from work you don’t want to do the things that you need to do like that cook a meal or do the dishes. You just want to sit there and watch Netflix or something.

Holly: That was huge with me. That, like, energy towards the end of the day. It was like almost an energy in your brain that feeling that you feel we have a really good night sleep. And you can’t get it from a five hour energy or anything of the supplement. It’s that internal just like drive that you have from sunup to sundown that I think people associate with youth. Not necessarily I mean maybe because your hormones are balanced when you’re younger.

Dr. Rodgers: Absolutely!

Holly: But you can feel that way later.

Dr. Rodgers: That’s correct. Another symptom is you can’t lose fat. So many people are dieting, exercising and doing the right thing but they just can’t lose any fat. Bioidentical hormones help with that. It also helps gain, build muscle. And also some other things if you have low hormones, you have low sex drive, low sex performance, difficulty having an orgasm and also insomnia. And so all those symptoms can happen. Which are very troubling to people.

Holly: So now let’s talk a little bit about the way you can administer these because of course I am a huge fan of pellet. That are other ways out there.

Dr. Rodgers: There are lots of other ways. You can give hormones my mouth and the problem with giving hormones my mouth is your liver transform these hormones a little bit, they increase your risk of blood clots. You’ve heard women aren’t supposed to have birth control pills after 35 because they have increased of blood clots. Women are supposed to smoke with birth control field because it increases your risk of blood clots. Hormones my mouth also increases your risk of liver disease and cancer.

Holly: Wow.

Dr. Rodgers: The women’s health initiative study in 2002 showed us that estrogen by mouth does increase the risk of breast cancer. Other than pills by mouth we can give shots. Hormone shots are not bioidentical and they, I know, with testosterone shots in my own patients I’ve used to follow cholesterol. And testosterone shots typically increase cholesterol and increase cardiovascular risk. And so I no longer give the testosterone shots in my practice here at BodyRenu. We know you can use hormone creams gels and patches. Creams gels and patches can all be used safely but the problem with the patches sometimes some women have some problems with the adhesive in the patch. Gels and creams there a pain because it takes a while for them to soak in before you can get dressed after you put them on. With the men’s testosterone cream sometimes it has an odor that’s offensive and no man wants to be walking around with an offensive odor.

Holly: That’s never good.

Dr. Rodgers: The other thing is it’s the hormones go to the skin they often can be transformed by enzymes into something different than what they started with.

Holly: Wow.

Dr. Rodgers: And so, that’s not healthy and hormones do not go through the skin in about forty, forty-five percent of the people. So almost half the people that they just plain don’t work.

Holly: Don’t get the full effect.

Dr. Rodgers: The other thing with hormone creams and gels, is you have them on your hands and if that is on hand if you touch someone skin to skin, you can transfer that hormone up for up to six to eight hours after its dried.

Holly: This is after you’ve washed your hands, you’ve done all that, you can still transfer.

Dr. Rodgers: Absolutely and so you don’t want that on your pats or your children and grandchildren. You just don’t want that to happen. The other thing is there’s a ceiling dose to how much you can give in thesehormone creams and gels. And you can only get so high and you can’t always get to a therapeutic range with the creams and gels.

Holly: Wow so we can be my favorite which would be the pellet. Let’s talk about that.

Dr. Rodgers: well the hormone pellets is the most bioidentical treatment plan just as our sex organs are surrounded by capillaries and the blood take them take that hormone to other places in the body. Did you know that estrogen has 400 you uses in the human body?

Holly: No

Dr. Rodgers: And when it’s gone that’s gone. Anyways so the hormones taken to other places in the body, as these pellets are inserted capillaries go around the hormone pellets and take the hormone to the rest of the body so it’s the most bioidentical treatment.

Holly: Again so much like the way you in naturally.

Dr. Rodgers: Absolutely. What we do is numb up the area with some numbing medicine, make a very small incision right back in the hip area, and we insert the pellets underneath the skin. For most women it’s nearly painless procedure.

Holly:I’ve said this before, honestly I like don’t know when you’re actually putting the pellet in. You’re so quick with the shot that I don’t even really feel the shot and I’m like are we done? Like that every time. you really are that good that’s a sincere compliments with that.
Dr. Rodgers:Dr. Rodgers: Thank you very much

Holly: It’s never hurt at all

Dr. Rodgers: For women the hormones get the full effect in about three to four weeks, men about 4-5 weeks and you’re at full effect and it’s working great. It’s a very safe way to deliver hormones. There was the women’s health initiative that told us that estrogen increases the risk of breast cancer. Well that was estrogen by mouth. The nurses study that was done in 1995 shows us that when we give testosterone and estrogen together as we do in pellet therapy, it actually reduces the risk of breast cancer.

Holly: wow. So I want to talk a little bit about safety on beyond cancer risk that also help for your brain in your heart let’s talk a little bit about that.Because that’s the other side of it

Dr. Rodgers: Okay, I’m going to talk about bone too.

Holly: ok

Dr. Rodgers: because the pellet therapy increases bone mass by almost nine percent each year. It’s the most effective treatment to prevent or treat osteoporosis. Women before menopause their heart attack risk is 1 in 7 after menopause it’s 1 in 3 well what’s the big change? The hormone levels.

Holly: Wow I never heard that before. That’s crazy.
Dr. Rodgers: That’s correct. in estrogen does reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease in study after study. The other thing is women get Alzheimer’s disease eight times more than men do and with hormones they can reduce that risk 50-percent.

Holly: oh my goodness with those statistics alone I don’t know how this isn’t just a normal part of every checkup. It should be.

Dr. Rodgers: It is in my office

Holly: I know in your office it absolutely is so let’s talk a little bit about what is the
process of coming in here in and finding out of hormone therapy is right for you.
Dr. Rodgers: Well we have you come in for a consult. There’s a small fee for that consult. to get a consult you just call our office or you can go to our website. And then during that consult we talked about different symptoms of the patients having. We set them up for laboratory testing. Lab testing is important. We don’t just treat symptoms you have to have evidence to not only treat the correct disease process but to know how to treat the correct disease process.

Holly: Well the amount you give, whether it be testosterone or estrogen or a combination of all the above. I mean that’s a very specific thing.

Dr. Rodgers: That’s right we have a calculator that calculates for that every person gets an individualized dose it’s not one size fits all, as a lot of prescription drugs are. So we calculate that. For women it’s a little even more complicated. Each woman has her own symphony of hormones that’s her unique makeup.

Holly: I really like that whole symphony of hormones thing, you make high-maintenance sounds pretty. I like that.

Dr. Rodgers: It’s it’s the way it is the symphony and the calculator tells us the dosages of the hormones. We put that amount in and then five, six weeks later we do lab testing and we talk to the women to make sure that the dosage is exactly correct.

Holly: Oh, yeah, the follow up is huge.

Dr. Rodgers: That’s correct and we can increase or decrease the dose depending on what the women tell us. Now men they’re easy you put the testosterone in they feel great.
Dr. Rodgers: yeah oh man boys you have it so easy what are you guys are not a symphony you’re just a one-play.

Dr. Rodgers: yes.

Holly: you’re a touchdown.

Dr. Rodgers: we’re a one instrument an instrument band.

Holly: I went, I went to football I don’t know why I don’t know that much about it

Dr. Rodgers: That’s all right

Holly: I should stick with symphonies and plays. That’s more my speed too. So again, I mentioned earlier that I am someone who suffered with anxiety. That was really my beast of burden for the most part of my life and the minute I found pellet therapy I felt the difference energetically within 24 hours. Within a couple of weeks, I’m telling you, life changer for me. The energy level in my mind my ability to focus and concentrate, think clearly have energy from sunup to sundown. And your confidence level, like I just felt better about myself and about life in general. I mean it it’s changed my life so immensely that I would honestly go on record to say there’s only been a couple of things that have truly, truly changed my life and pellet therapy is one of them. So, I highly advocate that you give Dr. Rogers a call. Get in here. Get your blood work done. Find out if you are in balanced especially if you’re on other medications for depression, anxiety and you’re not feeling better. Because chances are you’re having a hormone imbalance and maybe you don’t even have a problem with depression because they don’t really do a blood test for depression need to start putting your medication.

Dr. Rodgers: Absolutely and a lot of this is either a hormone imbalance, thyroid imbalance and we check all about with this consultation visit.

Holly: And what happened to mention talk 365?

Dr. Rodgers: If they mentioned talk 365 will give them a hundred dollars off their first pellet placement.

Holly: Oh, my goodness thanks you so much I appreciate that so you have no excuse you’re gonna save money you’re gonna feel better and I would actually love to hear about it email me and tell me about the difference you feel after you come to see this guy because it will be immense it is a game-changer a life-changer Dr. Rodgers much thank you.

Dr. Rodgers: Thank you.

Holly: I appreciate this a ton.